Don't you just love it when a headline has a humorous double entendre? I do.In all seriousness, however, Kyle Busch's No. 18 really did have its rear end housing (which helps to hold the transmission & other drive components in place) taken by NASCAR following Sunday's race at Atlanta Motor Speedway, according to David Poole of The Charlotte Observer.
"We were out to lunch there a long ways and made the most of a solid run. Happy with that I guess - a top five," Busch said.Busch, who won the season's first race at AMS to take the first of many Toyota victories in 2008, left the track with just his second Top-5 finish (he turned in a 5th-place run) in the 2008 edition of the Chase for the Sprint Cup after coming in as the overriding favorite.
After the race, NASCAR confiscated the rear end housing from Busch's No. 18 Toyota with plans to double check measurements at the research and development center in Concord, N.C.
It should be interesting to see what NASCAR does about this situation, but I find it even more interesting how none of the NASCAR media with the exception of Poole is working an angle on this story.
Ultimately, its just reassurance for Busch that his flop in the Chase has been one of titanic proportions because you can be darn sure that had Jimmie Johnson's rear end or a part from Sunday's race winner Carl Edwards been confiscated by NASCAR, there'd be tons of hype.
It's funny what happens when you aren't a contender anymore, and that's exactly what Busch, and more widely, Joe Gibbs Racing has become in the season that looked so destined to yield great things for the Toyota operation.















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10-27-2008 @ 8:58PM
Jack Hall said...
Interesting Geoffery! Just how does the rearend housing hold the transmission components in place?
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10-27-2008 @ 11:08PM
Kim said...
Could things get any worse for Kyle Busch? In my opinion, the guy is getting 3-fold what he deserves. Perhaps Kyle will learn a big lesson from the 2008 season. The lesson being; how to be humble, how to be a team player, how to have a positive attitude, and basically, how not to be such a giant Jerk in the future!
His big brother learned a year or so ago and perhaps this season will be Kyle's turning point, too. Sorry, but I just can't seem to muster up any sympathy for this kid. Maybe if he hadn't been such a cocky Jerk the entire season, I would feel differently. I hope he grows and matures from this.
Kim
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10-28-2008 @ 3:35AM
annaseitter said...
I THINK I KNOW HOW mr jack hall.
The rear end of a car is another mechanical mecchanism gadget like the transmission as i'm sure you know very well already. ( similar gadgets, similar functions); where is the mechanic from cal. on this ?. So anyway, the rear end housing holds the transmission componenets in place, MEANING THE REAR END PARTS(REAR END TRANSMISSION PARTS).
NO the transmission per se, no the major transmission.
Lets call it the minor one, aka the rear end.
I think that's what Jeffery Miller is trying to say mr hall. I Know,.... a little confusing,i understand, but that 's the way i can explain how a rear end housing holds the transm. components. Hope i explained clear enough, BRAD won't answer my posts and besides , seems like he disappeared again . I GUESS HE WAS JUST DRIVING BY AGAIN LAST WEEK , to pick on me again. Who knows? Unforcenally and conseguently i cannot bring the mechanic HELP IN to post about. Oh well? works for me....
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10-28-2008 @ 8:19AM
etslip said...
Oh please. Iam so tired of all the people commenting about racing that dont know a thing.First off a rear end housing does not hold any transmission parts. Ok follow this the rear end housing holds the third member(sometimes called the punkin) the third member bolts into the center of the rear end housing it holds the pinion and ring gear , they drive the axles which drive the wheels of vehicle. the third member is attached to the transmission by the drive shaft.the transmission is attached to the bellhousing which holds the clutch ; the bellhousing is attached to the back of the engine . so get it right or shut up!
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10-28-2008 @ 10:25AM
Jack Hall said...
Well anna I'll give you kudo's for trying to explain although it didn't make a lot of sense. The rearend is not a "minor" transmission part. etslip pretty well explained it.
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10-28-2008 @ 10:38AM
Mike said...
This is one of those times I wish I had taken "shop" instead of getting that academic diploma.
While Geoffrey's article did not mention anything about it I am guessing they are checking the rear end ratio on this? Any of the real gear heads can feel free to laugh at my expense but it is a serious question.
MBL
By the way, I am back from Mancation revived and ready to go. I bagged an 8 point buck this morning too. Life is good.
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10-28-2008 @ 1:06PM
Brad said...
Mike, no laughing here because that's probably what they are doing. Etslip has it right, you can kind of look at it like the old kids song....Hip bone connected to the leg bone, leg bone connected to the foot bone etc. etc. We called them Pumpkin heads ( just another slang term ) because of there shape especially on Tri-fives ( Let's see if anyone knows what a tri-5 is ) Although Anna's explanation might be confusing to some she actually is partially right, the rear end ( which holds the third member ) is not the transmission per se,,,,,but a TRANS--MISSION of sorts in it's function, ie. trans-mitting the power of the engine to it's final destination ( the rear wheels ). I know most of us know (Jack and Et especially) that the reason they have different ring and pinion gears is just to change at what power (RPM) rate it takes to turn those wheels and how fast they are turning. They want a quicker reaction on short tracks and less on superspeedways, example short track...I need max power right now, big track,,,I need to keep my RPM's lower to make this Engine last.......I know I know....it may not be the best explanation but hell,,,,give me a rumped up 327 with a set of 3 deuces a TH400, a ford 9-inch and all your gonna see is well..........what we're talking about......a rearend.
Aloha, Brad
P.S. Some will say...what a 327,3-2's,th400, 9-inch.....but with the right amount of massaging to each of those components.................priceless
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10-28-2008 @ 1:41PM
Jack Hall said...
You're right brad. I'm thinking though if they were concerned about gear ratio they would have taken the third member only. My guess they are checking for camber or tow in built into the rearend housing. I'm not sure on the ruling there.
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10-28-2008 @ 1:56PM
Brad said...
Yeah Jack, it's got to be something with the whole assembly since these gears are more or less 'quick change' gears, and anyone that can count and divide can come up with the gear ratio of the ones in the car, so there must be something else that didn't look quite right.
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10-28-2008 @ 3:11PM
Jack Hall said...
Even though you edited that sentence Geoffery "the transmission" does not belong there. The rear end housing has no connection to holding the transmission in place in any way shape or form. I'm sure you want to get the facts straight for your readers.
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10-28-2008 @ 6:14PM
Kim said...
Hey Brad!
I am certainly no car mechanic or expert by any means, but I am proud to say I can change my own oil, change my own flat tires, rotate my tires, and a few other (easy) things that all car owners should be able to do.
That being said, would a Tri-5 be something like a straight 6? For instance, you have your four cylinder cars, six cylinders (mine being a straight 6) and your eight cylinders. Is there such a thing as a 5 cylinder? Just a thought. You put the question out there, so I thought I would give it a shot, even at the expense of possibly sounding ignorant.
Kim
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10-29-2008 @ 3:05AM
annaseitter said...
OK GUYS , I TRYED, I SAID IT BEFORE , I ONLY SELL CARS;
I do not repair them. Whatever i know, well, i think i know, i learned dealing constantly with mechanics.You may know, selling preowned cars requires plenty of repairs to them before selling and a 24/7 auto repair shop available.Ww do not sell people factory labeled brand new cars, but do not dump JUNK on them either and thanks for, it has give us back a lots of repeated business.
Sorry j. hall, i was close,reading what BRAD has sayed but not
perfect. Here and up north, that's how mechanics always explained us the rear end parts and functions and often compared it to a minor TRANSM. that passes the power of the engine and the major transm. to the wheels.I always doublecheck with mechanics to make sure,1 of them is not wrong and usually if they say 2 or more defferent storyes one of them is wrong. I ALWAYS ACT DUMB AND CLUELESS and
wait to see what they say,before questioning.
BRAD, i'm glad i got you back on (did i?) one way or the other.
I KNOW YA HAVE BEEN A LITTLE SURE, but trust me, i was explaining, well trying to explain and not taking sides back than as i already said.Sorry, if you took it defferently, it's old stuff, lets move on. I SEE that ya all west coast mechanics, kind of think , relay and operate similar to the east coast repair shops personnell, and even if ya all did not i would still asked the word of the must competent persons to the subject, no matter if it's auto repair or selling/building houses etc. etc.
OH, and the pignion and rings, i also learned the same story that you said and so that's how i weould explain to others.
AT SLEEP, EITHER YA MUST REALLY BE AT SLEEP AND TYPING WHILE YOU ARE DREAM WALKING;oops, they call it
SLEEP WALKERS or you are trying to impose yourself as the
EINSTEIN OF THE SUBJECT.
READ my post again with open mind and than yours again.
Seems like we are saying the same exact thing in 2 defferent words and manners.I never said that the rear end housing holds the transmission parts.( the transm. is towards the front of the car, the rear end in the back (REAR,REAR right there).
What i said is that the rear hand holds a mechanical gadgets similar to the transm. gears and functions of the front transm.
That's all.I NEVER SAID ONE IS THE OTHER. THEY JUST WORK LIKE AND RESEMBLE A LITTLE THEMSELVES. Clear now, i hope? Of course your language about may been a little more clear or opportune than mine. KUDOS TO YOU, BUT THE MEANING WAS THE SAME.
YOU THREW IN the bell telephone housing and the third member (dirty minds would call it the third leg, if you get my drift).Oh, the pumpkin too, that's right,(bread or cake?).
OK, phoney stuff aside the process goes like this.A RUNNING ENGINE, sends the power to the attacched bellhousing, containing the clutch too.Than the power goes to the TRANSM
than to the drive shaft (some call it CAMCORDER, OOPS CAMSHAFT, i mean). From there, power goes to the third leg
member which brings it to the rear end housing that contains the pinion center and rings gear and some pumpkin looking pie gadgets.From this,power goes to the axle wheech brings it to the wheels.
That's how i know ,(that's how i was thought) the process occours.So, we shall agree. The defferents is ya starting from the back to the front and i started at the opposite end.
GEARS rings or GEARS only, i may said above are too inside the rear end; that's why the rear end is compared to a mini transmission by many experts when explained (basically same shape, same function).
Now mr AT SLEEP, YOU MAY BE THE EXPERT AUTO REPAIR MEN, WE ARE NOT. Shall we shut up because we are not?
Does your doctor tell you to shut up when you tell him one thing for another or the same thing but in a defferent manner?
My answer is: no, he doesn't. Well, maybe, just maybe you should not tell us to shut up.You should just correct us.
Fair enough, AT SLEEP? Blogs were made to express opinions; right or wrong!. Do you see my point now?; did i wake you up yet?IF you don't, than we shall all say:
JAVOUL ER COMANDANT!!. HEIL HITLER!!!.
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10-29-2008 @ 8:04AM
etslip said...
I think Jack has it , they altered the stagger or camber in that housing to help it turn lt. thats what they are looking at, ,,Yep geoffrey went from bad to worse on his statement, trans on most cars are sperated by @ least 5 foot of drive shaft,,unless you got a dragster then it's like a lip joint of 4inches.....(just watch the race geoffrey, stay away from what you dont know)
Brad i dont know how you upset anna so much, but I think she may be out of her meds?????
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10-29-2008 @ 10:00AM
Susan said...
Anna,
I am trying to find a good used car for my son away in college. Are there any cars models you can recommend? Or reliable dealers within 250 miles of Cincinnati?
Thanks
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10-29-2008 @ 10:59AM
Brad said...
Etslip,,,,,,,,Anna's second paragraph starts with 'AT Sleep',,,that's a reference to you not me and I've been on that end of what Anna has to say so good luck with your future back and forth with Anna.
Anna, I think me and you are good for now but please re-think your camshaft statement.
Kim,,,,,,Tri-fives was a reference to 1955,56 and 57 chevys, which had very large Pumpkin heads, aka Rear ends.
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10-29-2008 @ 10:27PM
annaseitter said...
AT SLEEP, ........well,i shall say AT WAKE now cause it seems
i'll sure woke you up. Now you talk about me runninig out of meds. DUDE, the only meds i was ever on and still are some times are TYLENOL-EXCEDRIN - NYQUIL. And that's only when i get colds or headaches, ok.
At the contrary,i read in some old blogs that you are on oxicodone-prozac-valium-xanax and qualudes and you swallow them like candyes.
That sure will explain why on july 13 -08 you posted against
DANICA PATRICK and your identity was SPUN OUT FOR HIM.
Did you SPUN OUT FOR HER this time? OK, who is she ? if ya don't mind?I'M UNAWARE OF ANY LESBO on this pages so it must not be a blogger. Oh o.k you are spinning out for me but i was so boring that you falled AT SLEEP. I see, well, thanks for the offer but i'm straight.Like some of us you may suffer of a medical condition called MPD off/on.MPD stands for multiple
personality disorder.It's a natural desease that attacks many
many good peoples and turnes them in to evils. In your case my diagnosis is the meds are causing you the MPD; so it's artificial and self inducted. Please quit or at least slow down the meds to improve your caracther and personality. DO IT FOR YOURSELF, NOT FOR ME It's your health. ciao,ciao.
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10-29-2008 @ 10:01PM
annaseitter said...
HI SUSAN, i think we talked about car makers not too long ago
whenthr toyotas were winning all the races and kim asked some similar questions.Anyway, to answer your question, years ago i would sayed go for GM-TOYOTA-HONDA...............
and NISSAN. Today as few months ago i'll say TOYOTA-HONDA...................................... stretch to NISSAN. GM has been sucking for ages now and may be on the brink of a turnaround but do not bet on yet. It's too early to risk.FORD /CHRYSLER, FORGET IT FOR 3 DECADES NOW .
JUNK+ JUNK. add GM too now.Back than ya said you all had a ford and a chrysler and ya had no problems yet with. As i said back than, it's probably cause they still pretty new, so by now their status shall still be the same or close.( was just few months ago) About the car dealer no i don't know any dealers
trustwordy around that area and besides, would you really be willing to travel 250 miles for a used car? The ones i know are around PHILADELPHIA AND SUBURBS but forget them. It's over a 400 miles ride from your ohio location. Way too far,unless you buying a $50.000 rare classic or similar.
You'll be better of asking RON if he gets back on these pages or KIM. THEY LIVE IN OHIO. One of my family member lives in youngstown ohio but he only buys brand new cars and trades them in at do time.Other choices are to ask a relative, friend or family that already bought preowned cars and they are happy with.Take a family member or relative or any trusted person
with knowledge on how to spot vehicles problems at purchase time or have the car tested by your trusted mechanic before
dashing out the $$$. Safer that way. 1MORE CHOICE: many dealers are on the internet (yahoo-aol cars) etc. etc. BUT AGAIN; TAKE AN EXPERT WITH YOU AT PURCHASE TIME.
Sorry, i could not be of anymore help,but ya should be ok if
you use all precautions and don't jump in to the first gold appearance; you know what i mean. TAKE CARE AND GOOD LUCK.
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10-29-2008 @ 11:10PM
annaseitter said...
OH YEAH THE CAMSHAFT IT'S ANOTHER MECCANICAL GADGET inside the engine and not what i said above.
Right BRAD, i did not realize util today the screw up. It does not have anything to do with the DRIVESHAFT. There it goes a subject that i don't deal often with or see often and confused my memory. AT SLEEP must falled AT SLEEP again, because she missed this chance to pick on my screw up.Oh well.
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10-30-2008 @ 7:11AM
TheOtherSideofReason said...
I'm Baaaack!
Hi everyone...1st, let me get this off my chest...NASCAR IS BORING!!!
Almost the whole race is the JJ JG DEj show.
2nd...We need more "Rear Ends" in NASCAR!! I vote for Danica's.
3rd...Hello...Almost every post is about what a rear end is and/or does. Let's not miss the main point. Was Kyle and his team cheating? Has NASCAR decided that favoring Toyota's was a bad idea? Is the "free ride" for Toyota over?
My only wish is that it was Jimmy Johnson instead of Kyle...although neither are near the top of my "favorites" list.
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10-30-2008 @ 8:49AM
Kim said...
Susan,
I can offer some advice on the used car front as hubby and I never buy new. We are also in the market for newer used cars and we LOVED a place called Carmax on Sawmill Rd. off of 270 in Dublin, OH. I can get you directions if you'd like them, just email me. :-) Another option is giving a call to Enterprise Rental Car Company. They have locations all over Ohio and sell their rental cars after they reach about 30,000 or so miles. They have warranties for them and are a good fair price. They also take excellent care of them while in their service, frequent oil changes, brakes when necessary, that sort of thing.
I personally have been very impressed with Carmax. They have hundreds of vehicles to look at. The place is HUGE! They even have golf carts you can ride around in to look at all the cars. They sell nothing older than three to four years, all have warranties, and their financing is good. If your son is interested in a particlar model and Carmax doesn't have it, they will get it from another dealer.
Anyway, those are some thoughts. Hope they help. :-) If interested in more info., just shoot me an email.
Thanks, Anna for reccommending me to Susan. :-)
Take care Susan & Anna,
Kim
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