Multiple Tire Suppliers Just Doesn't Work

There is a solution to this problem and it would still meet Nascars requirement of one tire maker having enough tires on hand at each race.
There should be a test at each and every race track between competeing tire companies. A group of three people could determine which tire company produced the best tire for that track. That tire company gets awarded the contract for the race(s) at that track for that one year. Make the tire companies compete on every track every year.
This way you insure competition among the tire makers and you insure them a certain level of tire sales at each race. No need to bring tires for 43 cars when you are only selling to 10 of them.

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After the tire fiasco on Sunday, it would seem to me, although I am new to Nascar and am really not educated in car racing, it was obvious to me that each pit crew Leader should decide on the Brand of tire, all be it, approved by Nascar.
This was not a race but just a mirage of a sea of cars stopping every 12-13 laps for tires. And it was obvious that whoever had the pole would win simply because he was in front and couldn't be challenged by anyone because of tires. So it doesn't seem like a "real" win as no serious racing could take place.
I agree with all the comments said by the driver's who were brave enough to say anything at all, I think we can all agree that it was a stupid wasteful race and despite the fingerpointing, each team should be able to decide the tires they use. Nascar owes them that much and should be ashamed of charging the fans to see that race.
The new cars just don't jive with Goodyear tires.
Jan in Beaver, Utah

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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then, Geoffrey. Some tracks are probably similar enough that you may only need 10 different types tires. How many different tires does Goodyear run right now in Nascar? And if a tire maker wanted to opt out of a test, it would be no big deal. They just need to not divulge until the last minute who is actually going to test. That way the teams that do show up, give it their best effort. Would it be expensive? Yes, but how much do 43 dozen sets of race car tires sell for? I am certain the drivers would get better tires out of it. After all, when you know that every week you are going to sell 43 dozen tires, how hard do you have to try?

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I read JEFFERY 'S FILE UP THERE, and to me this goodyear
monopoly seems just another power and money grab by nascar. HOOSIER screwed up many years ago what makes anybody assume they are going to screw up again taday's days when they are now a much better,bigger and financially sounded company? And besides, who says that necessarily has to be HOOSIER to come in and compete or subtitude goodyear?There are 15 more tire co. out there and any of them could beat goodyear.There is no need to prop in a bunch of tire co. 3 of them would be enough.
And that would work much better in the name of safety, quality, service and performance and every team owner should be allowed to choose what brand of tires they want on their cars.
SOFTER TIRES ARE FASTER BUT NOT SAFER AND LONGER LASTER. YES that is true and correct, but all NAZCAR had to do is mandate the companyes and teams to supply and use the harder tire. NAZCAR IMPOSES HUNDREDS OF BS REGULATIONS ; FOR ONCE THEY WOULD HAD ISSUED 1 IN THE NAME OF SAFETY and hardly anybody would bitched about.
I do not buy at all that HOOSIER was let go because they did not have the capacity of supplying 43 teams. THAT'S A CAP OUT FOR NAZCAR ORIGINATED BY NAZCAR!!!.HOOSIER
WAS PUSHED OUT IN TYHE NAME OF POWER AND $$$$$$.
All nazcar had to do is allow few more tire co. in and compete and work along with HOOSIER. IF hoosier could only supply 10-15 teams , a second co. could supply another 10-15 and a third co another 10-15 and so on. TIRE BRAND WOULD THAN BE CHOOSEN BY THE TEAMS and even if nascar wanted to dictate what brand tires the team had to use, they could HEIL HITLER DICTATE 3 BRANDS. HOWEVER I'M firmly opposed on NAZCAR TELLING THE PAYING TEAM OWNERS WHAT TO SPEND THEIR MONEY ON AND WHAT QUALITY TO CHOOSE . The paying owner shall dictate what to buy and maybe i allow in consultation with the drivers NOT nascar.
The safety aspect of the tire battle would be matched if safety standards will be required by nascar to whoever supplyes the tire and the law of supply and tire demand would also be matched by 2-3-4 tire co. DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAS TO BE ONE CO TO MATCH THE TIRE DEMAND.
NASCAR HAS A COVER UP STORY FOR EVERYTHING AND SO DID FOR HOOSIER. NO DOUBTS IN MY MIND.
THE MEDIA JUST PARTECIPATES IN THE COVER UP.

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WHAT A REPLAY OF A RETHORIC STORY?
I check nazcar .com and robin hood was talking about more testing (on tires); i go to YUHOO.COM and JAY BUSBOY AND larry VEIL is talking about more mandatory testing; i go to the daytona news journal .com and BRUCE WILLIS i think it was, is talking about more mandatory tire testing. I COME ON THE AOL PAGES and i read what's his face in nascar file taliking about madatory test (by the way i hear jenna frenchfryer is gone to yahoo while ago). I click to post on this fanhouse pages and MR JEFFERY MILLER concludes his file by saying:nascar potentially needs a new tire supplyer exspecially if goodyear can't be more proactive in forceing nascar hand for more testing.
Without insulting anyone, it seems like to me ,i'm listening to a series of parrots of various regions provenients repeating one after the other one.
6 weeks ago nazcar was racing in pocono pa. a track very similar to indyanapolis (flat track hardly any high banking)
why THIS TIRE PROBLEM DID NOT APPEAR? no high banks as matter of fact flat like indy and no tire explosions.
The BOX CAR COT PROJECT begun in late 2005 early 2006.
Why nascar didn't worry abouty this extra testing or even average testing for the past 2 and half years ? WHY WAIT TO THE LAST MINUTE ,A DAY OR 2 BEFORE THE INDY RACE?
THE COT and BADYEAR TIRES were on the COT LAST YEAR 07 AT INDY. WHY LAST YEAR THERE WAS NO TIRE PROBLEM? SOMEBODY corrects me please if i wrongly remember about last year indy allstate 400.
What kind of flawed story is NAZCAR passing to the buying media for them to sedate the angry fan ah?
Just another tranquillizer or chill pill to sedate and quite the flock of sheeps. That's the way i see it and no one feels insulted please. To them i'm a member of the flock like anyone else. Their bs does not work for me....

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All you people keep talking about tires. Have any of you thought about WHO is responsible for the terrible racing surface at Indy? If you run ANY tire on a cheese grater it's going to eat it. If Indy can't fix it, don't put our drivers out there to see who is going to get killed first!

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Multiple tire suppliers are to blame? No way. Nascars hunger for money is to blame. Goodyear needs to sell --no, lease, lots of tires in order to get back their fee for being the "Official" sole supplier. Testing isn't for safety, it is to determine how little rubber can be included and still get a few laps. Estimated tire cost (12 sets)for each car at Indy was some $20,000, for the race. Add at least 1/2 for practice, time trials, etc, $30K. Times 43, 1 1/4 Million dollars, plus what the non-qualifiers had to pay. After all that, still no tires to take home, the tires are now leased, not sold.

Wamt a safer tire? Set a tire limit. No more 25 mile tires. Would 100Mi tires be asking too much?

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Nice idea Mike, but it won't work from an economic standpoint. There is little money to be made in racing tires by the major tire makers. Goodyear, Firestone etc, make and provide racing tires for advertisement purposes for the most part. I suggest that Nascar open up the tire situation to competition again, but with strict rules in regards to safety. This way, the teams could test the various makes of tires and choose the one that suits their needs per racetrack. Nascar could easily check construction and compound to see if the tires meet their specs. The tire makers would then be able to compete for bragging rights to use in their advertising campaigns. This country was built, and thrives on competition. Take that away, and you have the fiasco we saw last weekend at Indy. By my best estimates it costs around 850,000 dollars for all the teams to purchase tires for each race. This may sound like a lot of money, but when you factor in Goodyears costs, it doesn't leave much room for profit. Works for me....

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That's right,tires are leased not sold , iread that on yahoo sports 6 months ago and that's another screwed up idea begun by nascar,AND THE DELIVER OF THE TIRES TO THE TEAMS PIT DOES NOT OCCUR UNTIL the hour near race time. Same rule for practice tire delivery.NASCAR royalty usurpation occurs after the owners have paid for the leasing.
TEAM OWNERS SPEND THOUSANDS $$ TO prepare, build and body an mechanical parts for those cars ,i'm sure they
would love to be able to test and practice at their shop to or locals testing facilityes or even any deserted back road alley.
In short TEAMS should be able to PURCHASE THE TIRES
when THEY CHOOSE AND THE BRAND THEY CHOOSE and not NAZCAR dictate time and brand purchase. In addition if a team wants to test those tires on their own weekly time they shall be free to do so and not have to wait for practice on friday.

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You have to keep all of the tires standard are some teams will start pushing the envelope to gain speed. This will start causing more wrecks and endangering lives. I'm not saying they have to stay with Goodyear but everybody should run the same tires. I'm not sure if all the teams can afford to buy a lot of different brands to test with. They have made the cars standard, the engines standard and the rules standard, so they need to keep the tires standard in order to keep competition as equal as possible. I don't agree with everyting being equal, or equal as they can but it's to late to race fords, chevys, dodges, toyotas etc. against each other.

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WHEN SOME TEAMS START TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE ON TIRES, the entire ARMY of nazcar SS AGENTS WILL BE THERE TO inspect . That why there are inspections CHARLIE .
NASCAR HAS NOT ONLY a core of $turm $truppen on pit row to supervise everytthing during the race; They also have an army of gestapo's agents in the garage that inspects every little details and so will do with the tires.
MOST OF THE DRIVERS HATE THE IDEA OF STANDARDS CARS. ASK GREG BIFFLE,STEWART,CRUSTEY WALLACE,
JARRETT,GORDON etc etc long ago all cars were defferent and drivers and crew used to build the cars their own way and so shall return to be again.
As of the idea of 1 tire brand for everybody that's just as bad and imposing as the same car for all standards. EVOLUTION,
ENTREPRENURISM, TECNOLOGY ENHANCHEMENT, COMPETITION, MAJOR ACHIEVEMENTS COMES FROM A SOCIETY or a group or an individual capable to elevate himself , his ideas, his achievements above others in a free and favorable enviroment and not in a society oppressed and
obstacolated by it's tirannyc rulers like the former eastern block societyes of the world were every oppressed sheep answers and gets living mandatory rules from it's rulers.
wHAT THIS GOT TO DO WITH TIRES AND NAZCAR??. i'll tell you and your everybody should have the same tires on nascar cars. From tomorrow on ya are obligated to purchase and wear the same shoes, pants, shirts, ties, suits, socks, jackets
sweathers, cars, tv, stereo, dvd, cd player, boat, and the same size house, same size garden, same enhancements on propertyes and even the same toilet paper that my husband
purchases and wears and uses and enjoys. OH sorry,not only you ougther to follow the new rules but every man in any company that their male work force does the same type of work that you do. in other words everybody has to be carl marx ugual. Better yet the new rule is for every male in usa. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT FOR A SAME TIRE FOR EVERY TEAM MISTER CHARLIE? HOW DO YOU LIKE ME OR ANYBODY ELSE TELLING YOU WHAT TO WEAR AND WHAT TO BUY??? Have a nice day.

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Don,

While I do agree they should open up the tire competition to all comers, Goodyear is making a tidy profit from it's racing tires. What they spend in research and development in comparison to there passenger tire division is chump change to them. When you factor in all the different size tires, styles, conditions (rain, sleet, snow, heat etc.), load factors compared to 1 size of a tire for racing it's just a dollar waiting on a dime. Yes they do test different compounds but that is minimal in comparison to the many compounds they test for passenger tires. When you factor in 800,000.00 plus dollars for 36 races and then the nationwide series, and truck series that's easily 75 to 90 million dollars from 1 size of tire. I do believe they get great advertising from Nascar ( let's try not to count Indy LOL ) but they would not be making these tires unless they were getting a good return on there investment.

Aloha, Brad

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